Minimum search word length is 3 characters – maximum search word length is 84 characters. Login name. Remember me. When the bike is finished I hope to meet up with everyone in the Stoke and Stafford area for a run out. My main problem is with the frame number as it has pretty much eroded away and the bike came with no documents or number plate. I am now looking for a rolling frame with a log book so if anybody out there knows of one preferably not ebay I would appreciate any replies or I may go down the Q Plate road.. Has anybody done this or is it a load of hassle??.. Here are some pictures of my D Yes, the bike does run..
1939 Triumph Motorcycles
Your best bet would be to get one of Roy Bacon’s buyer’s guides with a section on the arcane and obscure serial number system used by Triumph. It changed several times over the years and is inconsistent and very confusing for the neophyte. Years may vary according to when the bike was announced, actually produced or exported.
Frame & Engine numbers Cornelius has been doing research on the engine and frame number system and the assembly date/month system for many years.
By fantictrials , September 2, in Motorcycles. I’m soon to be getting my 3HW and wondered if anyone can provide any further detail about the bike based on the engine and frame number? Robert, I to have recently purchased a 3HW and my Frame number is and dated Oct 44 under the saddle on the frame facing the rear and yours should be stamped in the same place. Robert until you can find a copy of the book Ed mentioned.
Your bike is the th bike from contract C for built Oct Feb I calculate your tank census number as C Your engine is from the previous contract S For some reason, Triumph numbered the engines It’s strange because the census numbers for this contract follow on from a contract in , with all other contracts since having higher numbers than yours? Maybe there was some confusion or hold ups in the system after the factory was bombed in and then the move to temporary premisses in Warwick and another move to the Meriden works???
Engine & Frame Numbers
Triumph Spitfires can be identified by a number of different distinguishing marks: number prefixes; Interior trim codes; Body paint codes; Windscreen dating. The car’s commission (chassis) number can be found on an aluminium plate riveted.
To enable you to purchase the correct parts for your machine you will need to know the Part reference numbers. These are found in the Parts catalogue for your machine. To purchase the Parts catalogue for your machine go to Parts catalogues. The year and model were used as a prefix to the engine number From to the final digit 7, 8 or 9 was used. Engine numbers commenced at: — — — — This was followed by a number from the list below.
Note: The engine number is located on the left side of the engine immediately below the cylinder barrel flange. The number is stamped onto the raised pad.
Triumph Dating Information
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Here we have a Triumph model chart, this is the most comprehensive chart that Engine and frame numbers matched and all models used the same number.
Note that the serial number information below is fragmentary and incomplete, and many bikes have proven to be much newer than the serial numbers would suggest. It appears that Raleigh recycled many of the older serial numbers in later years, so there are lots of bikes from the 60s and 70s that have serial numbers that would suggest much greater age. Most older Sturmey-Archer hubs have two or three-letter model codes, which are usually stamped onto the hub shell.
Conveniently, they also usually have the month and the last two digits of the year of manufacture stamped onto the shell. This is the easiest way to date a 3-speed bicycle, if it has its original rear wheel. In , an entirely different numbering system was introduced for the higher end and subsequently Raleighs. Serial numbers should begin with a “W”, which stands for Worksop, the facility that produced these frames.
This is followed by another alphabet. This alphabet indicates the fortnight in which the frame was built i. The third character is always a numeral. It indicates the year of manufacture, the decade being assumed i. What then follows is a series of numbers.
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I shall need pics of the completed bike and of the frame and engine numbers. the DVLA Swansea to issue Dating Certificates regarding Triumph motorcycles.
Here are some of his observations:. A central storage for these various parts was The Stores. The storeman would stack those parts on shelves and probably hang the frames up. The frames and gearboxes were serial number stamped when they were made but the storeman would not move items along the shelves and racks to keep them in number sequence. Engines MAY have been number stamped, but I think not as these numbers certainly went into frames in a sequence.
Also into stores would have gone other parts made elsewhere, such as magnetos, control levers and fuel tank caps. Another lad probably would have been an older and more experienced apprentice who knew which items would be needed would transfer parts from the stores to the Assembly Shop. Here it didn’t matter about serial numbers, as long as the right frames and gearboxes went together for the various models, and there would have been separate ‘lines’ for different models.
Either engines were used in their numerical sequence, or more likely they had not been numbered, for on assembly the date or date code was stamped on the engine and MOST LIKELY the number was also applied to the engine at this time.
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The following comes from my many years of research into the old Triumph Works at Coventry, not from any documentation, for none survived from the air raid attack on the night of November 14th From the time when Triumph started producing machines with their own engines for the engine would be date stamped with the date of machine assembly.
Engines, frames, and later, gearboxes were made in different parts of the Works.
The full time staff can assist with Dating, Registration and Research inquiries for For this early frame the Trail is degrees as this matches Triumph practice The rear number plate is attached by two nuts and bolts at the lower edge, the.
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Are you seeking an appraisal? Click here. What this chart is intended to be: This chart has been developed as an additional reference guide more so then simply dating off Sturmey-Archer hubs for the positive identification of Raleigh frames and entire bicycles. As proper factory documentation is very limited, the following charts are a constant work in progress; they have been compiled by examining numerous Raleigh frames from each period, component date codes, decal schemes, color availabilities per year; and – occasionally – official papers.
That said, these charts are representative of U. There isn’t enough data to claim either option as absolute. Keep in mind that these charts are incomplete, and there is a reasonably wide margin of error between serial cutoff dates.